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Mars Heats Up As It Darkens

Seeded on Wed Apr 4, 2007 2:39 PM EDT
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science, global-warming, climate, mars, climatology, albedo, dust-storms
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Dust storms and dark rocks are making the red planet hotter.

Mars is getting hotter. Measurements of the brightness of the planet's surface over the show that the thermometer has ratcheted up some 0.65 °C over a few decades.

Lori Fenton at the Carl Sagan Center, Mountain View, California, and colleagues looked at maps of Mars's 'albedo', a measure of how much light reflects off a surface. By comparing a map from 1976-78 with one from 1999-2000, they found "some pretty dramatic changes", says Fenton. In particular, the southern highlands region of Mars had darkened significantly.

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Jason Coleman

Just to dash the hopes of those who read the headlines and think this supports the notion that global warming on Earth is natural because it's happening on Mars, you'll have to read the article as well as some additional material to understand that's not the case at all. Reduced albedo, like the darkening of Mars, is one of the compounding mechanisms of Earth's global warming as well (ice reflects more light than water). However, to assume that the cause of such warming is the same would be a mistake as, and this should be painfully obvious, the two planets are very different in terms of their climates (we have a tad more surface water and vegetation than Mars).

Also, I'd like to point out that if one is to accept this research as good science and worthwhile, you'd also have to accept pretty much most of the tools climatologists have used to determine that greenhouse gases are the main cause of warming here on Earth. If you're a skeptic looking for some research that you hope will support your position, you'd be advised to probably not mention this research too much. It actually just goes to prove you wrong.

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Reply#1 - Wed Apr 4, 2007 2:47 PM EDT
Eco-geek

I was going to seed this then send you a link, but I guess you beat me to it.

Still....I suspect some people will just read the headline and use it as "proof" against anthropogenic warming here on Earth.

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#1.1 - Thu Apr 5, 2007 3:39 PM EDT
Jason Coleman

Yep, you're right about that. The self-proclaimed heretics are going at it, although with far less vigor than I would have expected, to their credit Then again, it only took a few comments before Al Gore was mentioned.

I've got little else to add to the topic than what I've said above. The contrarians seem perfectly okay accepting computer model results, albedo calculations, greenhouse gas theory, and so on just so long as the headline gives them something they can use as "evidence." Never mind that the evidence upon inspection actually contradicts what they claim (which actually varies from moment to moment, if you haven't noticed).

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